Transcript: Trump Allies Shiv Stephen Miller as Midterm Panic Grows

Some people inside are disputing that—they’re saying that Miller is merely passionate, not abusive. But you know what, Chris, I’m going to put my money on abusive. Miller and Trump wanted to deport one million people a year, but by a number of different estimates, they clearly fell far short of that number, maybe hitting around 200,000 or 300,000 or thereabouts. Very plainly Miller is not happy about that. Chris, you’re on the front lines of these deportations. What’s your general sense of how close he’s coming to his targets?

Newman: Well, first, let me say that I’m with you. I tend to try to avoid all the palace intrigue drama, because one of the things that Trump has done is turned our government into a reality TV show. And so I would like to not have to pay attention to the latest rumors from within the White House. But there are ginormous material consequences to the way in which these lunatics wield their power. And I actually think that we do need to pay close attention. And I’ll share with you, by the way, a lesson where I kind of learned this.

People might not remember, but there’s a publication called The Washington Examiner. Last year they reported, as well, a kind of palace intrigue story of Stephen Miller yelling at the top of his lungs, saying the deportation numbers were too low—why are we not sending people to Home Depots to go after day laborers, who are the people that I represent and have represented for 20 years.